The legend of Green Man also known as No Face Charlie . He was a real person whose legend spread to many regions

Just like the legend of the 13 Bends Road the Green man Legend has some truth to it but it has been re told and adopted by other community's .
I remember hearing about the green man in  Allegheny County's South Park clear back in the 60's when I was a young kid he was supposedly a utility worker who got severely shocked and skin turned green and he
would hang out around a tunnel off Piney Fork Road

http://hauntsandhistory.blogspot.com/2007/12/green-man-of-south-park.html

Only problem there is absolutely no truth to him hanging out there or in north hills or anywhere else in Allegheny or any other county except Beaver County in the town of Koppel
He was a real person named Raymond Robinson




He was also known as no face Charlie and in fact was severely disfigured by an electric shock when he climbed a trolley bridge and struck a power line  as a kid .


My friend Joe Mallack 2nd from left with the green man Raymond Robinson

Greenman's Tunnel South Park

While he lived and only traveled the roads around Koppel in Beaver county mainly Pa 351 his legend has gone all over the place where people have meet him and how he was injured  all just made up story's and if you really did meet him in Koppel you would have to be well into your fifty's to have done so.
I traveled  sections of Koppel/New Galilee road many times as a kid  both days and nights as a short cut to Ellwood city where our family stayed with friends along Conequenessing creek and never ran into Raymond  until one nght when we where on our way home from new castle and I still use the road as I have customers in Beaver falls and Ellwood City  and I travel down Wallace run Road  Pa 551 and go over the bridge on Pa 18 which replaced the trolley bridge where Raymond was hurt and never knew this is where The Green Man legend came from till  I started working with an older electrician from beaver county  Joe Mallack 73  who personally knew Raymond  and would protect him  and one time he and his biker buddies took Raymond to Ohio for a beer  I found  this out while researching this article on Raymond .
So another legend busted unfortunately. But he did exist but no where outside the Koppel area  but still fun to tell your grand kids or scare a girlfriend so she holds you tight as you go check his tunnel






Shades Run and the Purple Gang is there any truth to the Legend in Penn Hills ?

My Friend the late Noel McCarthy known to everyone as Grizzly often told the story of Shades Run.
 It is located along Allegheny River Blvd just as you cross from city to Penn Hills and go over a concrete bridge .

Its all grown up this time of year but normally you can look up the Hollow.
Grizzly talked about a pack of Wild Dogs runs around it and how Body dumps and suicide victims where found there but he also talked about the Purple Gang or Purple Hood gang who conducted  mayhem and murder  in the  caves hidden among the weeds during the 1920's Boot Legging hay days

As you can see in the Google Earth Image its a very big very thickly wooded area some of it encompassed by the Former Government Run VA facility to the left .
While victims of foul play and suicides as well as walk away's from VA who lost there way and perished where  found in the area  as well as cases of wild dogs running free in area have been documented  .I can find nothing on the Purple Gang or Purple Hood Gang linking them to the area other than the notorious Purple Gang in Detroit which was loosely associated with the mob and had dealings  in almost every big city during boot legging days supplying booze   and possibly  did business with Larocca  Crime family here in its early days .
But almost all of the old mob of Pittsburgh have passed into history  and if the actual purple gang operated here other than to deliver booze to the city  I can find no evidence of it or the supposed caves



I am hoping I will run into an older Penn Hills resident who might be able to further fill in the story or legend .
and also some day I hope to explore the area to see if there are even any caves up there which is always a possibility with terrain in area but for now it seems more legend than fact. Like the 13 bends road across the river in Harmar Twp.

7-11 clerks murder during robbery in Wilkinsburg goes 30 + years with no answers

The store along  1614 Penn ave in Wilkinsburg  now an independent C store was once part of the 7-11 food store chain and it has been the subject of numerous Hold ups over the years but in 1982 it was the scene of a murder .The stores owner Eustace Durado 52 was found stabbed in the store by a neighborhood youth who stopped in to shop when he found Eustace stabbed and having  bleed to death on the floor by  unknown assailants


Its is one of the oldest cold cases in the eastern suburbs  of Pittsburgh  and there has been absolutely no leads who or why. 
The store now has a security window for after dark and cameras something it did not in 1982
When security cameras where still very expensive Black& White  and not very good in quality.
Thousands ride past this store daily as they go down Penn Ave the original US 22 /30 to the city to work 
but at night its isolated with few close homes mostly apartment buildings that sit back from the road.
Hopefully some one will come forward with information but this was just as the mills went down and people scattered to all points of the country So unless there is a DNA match some day it will go down as unsolved. 

A Treasure supposedly hidden in Mckees Rocks before the Revolutionary War

Seems beside all the bad things that go on in McKees Rocks  there is rumor of a fortune hidden some where in or around the burial mound said to be cursed.
Supposedly  it is the collected wealth of John McKee who McKees Rocks is named after
who took up sides with the french and Indians against the British and  who disappeared into the Ohio river with a jump from a cliff never to be seen again .


Now mind you this is all rumor and nothing more than a sensational article in a newspaper and its not the only story of fortunes waiting in hiding to be reclaimed  hidden away during the various wars which took place in early america or stolen by highway bandits  to later be picked up particularly in Fayette county also known as Fayettenam for a reason. 

But with all these storys about hidden treasures you think by now with all the coal mining and property development which has gone on it would have been found by now but there may well be some day some one with a metal detector out looking for coins and such just so happens to come across just such a find.
Unfortunately thou its mostly old forgotten grave yards and building foundations found not treasure but you never know. 

Butler County Girl vanishes in 1985 with out a trace

It was a cold snowy day when  8 yr old Cherrie A. Mahan
got off her school bus on Corn Planter Road in rural  Winfield Twp  after a long day at school and vanished into thin air never to be seen again despite a massive manhunt by the entire community for her.
There has been no trace or contact its like she was just sucked into a vortex
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19850223&id=jKccAAAAIBAJ&sjid=GGIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4863,3874822



http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19851204&id=Fd4cAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CGMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6405,4582685


The only possible clue to her disappearance a van with a skiing scene on it kids report was in the area

Unfortunately there was a van like this driving around a woman owned which had nothing to do with the case which caused even more confusion 
Still a very rural area of butler county despite development
One weird twist to this whole case is the name of the road she disappeared  on
Cornplanter Road .
It might mean a farmer planting corn which there is plenty of in Butler County .
But there is also a legend and curse that goes with this name the name of a great Seneca Indian Chief  Corn Planter whose grave was disturbed when the Allegheny was flooded to make the Kinsua Dam  and is said to have put a curse upon the land.

 http://www.examiner.com/article/kinzua-dam-a-paranormal-hotbed

The Allegheny River passes right thru Butler County .

Coincidence?


Was McKees Rocks doomed by a curse when an Indian Burial Mound was Desecrated?

In the late 1800's some young boys discovered some bones while digging in a hill side in McKees Rocks along the Ohio river just outside of Pittsburgh  and further exploring paid for by Andrew Carnegie would reveal it was a burial  mound for a long ago Indian tribe the Adenas .
Instead of the residents backing up and replacing the bones and leaving it alone like you would a cemetery they desecrated it by digging into it and putting business and homes on it .
Ever since that day long ago McKees Rocks has seen many Fires caused by accident and arson and horrific explosions and Industrial Accidents like no where else.
Many are quick to blame a curse put upon the people of McKees Rocks for disturbing the mound .

In reality when you look at all of the incidents its mans own greedy, uncaring  hand of stupidity and ignorance  involved putting money above human life.
 The Pressed Steel Car Company where conditions where so bad a person a day died there  is just one of many examples .


Just look at this sample hit from Google news all the fires and explosions which have happened in Mckeesrocks 


 But the curse makes for a good story and maybe there is something to it just look how many young boys  have drowned and or disappeared in the area. All I know is I work in the Bottoms of McKees Rocks as the area is known and will never be involved with the mound ever than to pay it reverence it deserves  as there may well be more remains of Indians in there. It needs to be restored and remains returned  to there eternal rest but I do not see that happening any time soon as long as money is involved.

 Of course the death of one of the Bryans in a fall and a couple fires and explosions at Bryans plants over the years  keeps the curse alive in many peoples minds because they where the ones to cut into and chop up much of the mound .

 http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1129&dat=19980407&id=uIRIAAAAIBAJ&sjid=LG8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=6647,6163944

Mound as it looks today

Below is pictures and links involving the mound decide for yourself .Is McKees Rocks actually cursed for having disturbed the mound?

http://pgdigs.tumblr.com/











Pine Creek Flood of 1986 was like a flood never seen before and one man never came home and is still missing

There has been flooding along Pine creek since settlers first moved to the area but in 1986  it would turn out to be a killer as 8 people lost their lives and one man William Gamble would never be seen again.




I remember that day well and its continual  bolts of lightning striking bolt after bolt after bolt hitting all over the north hills as I looked to the north hills from my home.
I had customers with lighting damage to there equipment I could not get to because so many roads where cut off by flooding and I would have to wait til the next day .
What I saw was horrific as I went thru Etna along route 8 and they where pulling vehicles out.
They where also looking for William Gamble and not find him some one even took an old 3 wheel Unimog  and early ATT  into creek to look but gave up after the tires flattened .
Some suggested he did not drown but decided to disappear and use the flooding to his advantage but he has never been heard from again and no man leaves his tools and money behind.
He very well could have been carried all the way down 8 and thru Etna to the river there was that much water moving.
No bones nor any trace of William has ever been found and there have been several stream improvements and dredging done to prevent it from happening again. But no closure for the family of William Gamble .

Who or What attacked our scout group while camping at Camp Semiconon in summer of 1977 in Butler County ?

My first job just out of High School was working on the Camp Staff at  the now long closed  Camp Semiconon in Connoquenessing Twp. Named for the creek which runs thru it by local Indians the word means" Long Straight way" it was part of Allegheny Trails Council now known as Laurel highlands Council and just as worthless.

I was hired as a Voyager and assistant to Camp Range Joe Huburda a really great guy whose family would get screwed in the rend by the council when he unexpectedly died.
I would take groups of scouts and their leaders on what was known as Shoe & Canoe a small version of the Boot & Paddle program run out  now gone Camp Tionesta  it was a  7 mile hike to Lake Author we would then canoe 2 miles across set up camp stay overnight and repeat in the morning.
When not doing this I would help the ranger maintain the camp along with 3 other scouts.
As a break in the first scouts we would work with would be Webelow Scouts 10 years old and 1 year from becoming boyscouts. I and another scout  was assigned a group of boys to supervise during the week.
Area has greatly grown up and changed over 30+ years 

Everything went good the first night . But the second night something went very scary and bizarre.
Our camp site was across the small feeder creek  and by it self. We where sitting at camp fire and it was pitch black when a stone came into camp hitting a scout  some one had thrown  a quick look around  with flash lights can not find anything.
Then it happened again 5 more times at this point the stones where getting bigger  I grabbed up the kids and got them  to  the camp lodge  and got the camp leader to come up to site to check things out we saw nothing and as he was asking me questions an even bigger rock came into the campsite hitting the fire pit. With that we took off back to the  lodge and brought all the webelow's and staff to lodge for safety and Pa. State Police where called 2 troopers in a unmarked car responded.  They looked and could find nothing either  and decided it was probably locals playing games .
But we decided it would be safer to keep kids in lodge for the night. That morning we looked around stones where everywhere and we climbed up the hill looking to see if it where locals playing a trick but it would have been impossible for them to do it  and sneak down in the dark.

So what could it have been? I have had it suggested we encountered a Big foot Attack but we heard nothing
but they are known supposedly for throwing rocks at cabins and such and disappearing .
 Witches Black Magic there has always been rumors of dark magic and satanic rituals  going on in the deep woods  but nothing ever substantiated than kids playing around .
Was it some one on staff playing tricks maybe but everyone was accounted for including the rangers 2 sons.
If it was locals how where they getting around in pitch black and not making a sound.
As far as I know there was not another incident like this at the camp but heard it from other scouts in other councils when I talked to them at jamboree about similar things happening to them. . But that was also year they announced
they where closing Tionesta which I helped to tear down and year they announced camp heritage was being built in Fayette County also known as Fayettenam  for a reason .Because of all the violence that goes on in that county with the highest amount of poverty in the state and its mountain people and inbreeds. yes you can definitely hear banjos playing in that county.
During the presentation of the new camp that fall  I asked what security precautions where taking place at camp and they  basically shook it off saying its so remote no one should bother any one after everyone knew what happened at Semiconon Some scout leaders started carry concealed hand guns and did not like answers they where getting as well. But like I said that's the useless council for you.
Even thou earlier that summer all of scouting world would be shocked when 3 Girl Scouts where raped and murdered in a camp as they slept.which was same week we had problems at Semiconon coincidence.  Needless to say sleeping in the woods would change for ever. I always kept a weapon close while camping after that and even to this day I am always on guard in the woods.

 http://www.girlscoutmurders.com/

To this day scouts are still camping and hiking and nothing is being done to insure their safety.

16th Street Bridge Construction Superintendent goes missing in 1921 and no trace ever found

I have always been a fan of narrator and author David McCullough  who is from Pittsburgh  I even use to buy from his family's electrical supply business before it closed and when the 16th street bridge which goes from  Pittsburgh Strip District to North Side  was being named for him   The Post Gazette did some research on the bridges history and  came across the mysterious disappearance of M. C. Sparks the superintendent in charge of building the bridge .

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2013/07/07/Next-Page-As-Pittsburgh-s-16th-Street-Bridge-is-renamed-missing-man-s-mystery-remains-unsolved/stories/201307070194

I never knew about till I read it in the Post Gazette.
but people going missing along our 3 rivers or drowning in them is nothing new.
When I worked for  Burns International detective Agency as a guard  one of the places was an old forge  that went out of business and before that it was the Pressed Steel Car Company which made rail cars and had a horrendous reputations for accidents and deaths.While working the assignment you would find all types of people walking up the railroad tracks along the river beside the plant. Kids playing teens up to no good the homeless,drifters and vagrants and other undesirables  . You always had to stay on your guard its like that today and in when the 16th street bridge was being built.

It seems like the rivers just attract this bunch just like Walmarts do.
and in M.C.Sparks case it was even more dangerous time along the rivers in 1921  with labor strife everywhere.
did he fall off into the river very possible they did not have the harnesses and safety systems in place like today.Did he commit suicide its possible he was a shell shocked WWI vet  Was he attacked killed and then dumped in river that's more likely. But we will never know till remains are found some day and thats highly unlikely .
Like I always say the storys these 3 rivers would tell if ever dried up and dug up.

Fellow Blogger who has been following a 40 year old murder mystery of a young girl

A fellow Blogger who likes to travel around and explore western pa like I di also has found info on a muder from 40 years ago which he goes into depth on.
http://swpare.blogspot.com/2013/10/40th-anniversary-of-debbie-makel-murder.html


Pittsburgh Girl missing 50 + years no trace. But lots of theory's and another from Beaver County 4 years earlier never found as well

I was very young when Maryann Verdecchia  went missing after leaving for school and no trace of here has ever been found. My late friend Grizzly claimed the school janitor grabbed her and killed her and put her body in the school  incinerator to dispose of it.
The accused janitor is long gone and not talking and there was even a site dug up in Baldwin Boro near where a school on Brownsville road is  was where a man claimed when he was a kid he saw a minister bury
body near by but there has been so much ground movement there is no way to ever know.

 I know a Former  Scoutmaster who at one time was an auxiliary police officer who helped to look for Mary
 Ann and it haunts him to this day they could not find her.






 Some one knows what happened that morning but this is another case where only time will tell if remains are ever found. 
Whats even more interesting is the case of Rebbaca Triska who went missing in beaver County never knew about it till looking up Mary Anns case .

Again the question has to be asked if there is ,or has been an active serial killer or killers in these parts. 


Haunted 13 Bends Road in Harmar twp is there any truth to it? or the other 13 bend road in Boston Pa.

A local legend which persists to this day is about 2 roads Campbells  run road in Harmarville which can be accessed near the old Harmar Mine and another at the end of the Boston bridge as you go over Pa route 48
in Boston  towards Elizabeth. you turn left on to a road with 13 bends that's dead ended.

The story goes that an orphanage was located along the road and there was a terrible fire there and many of the children died and if you park along the road while dark and put baby powder on your vehicles windows that the children s hand prints will appear as will there images in your rear view window as drive away scared at your encounter of their hand prints and you will be chased down the roads by mysterious cars at night .


None of this is the truth and nothing to it as far as I or any one else can determine.
Even more bizarre is how the 13 bends road in Harmarville fits into the picture.


There was in fact an old orphanage which sat along Renzie Road  way back off the road  which burned in Boston area but it was well after it closed and fell into disrepair no children s or adults life where lost.



In fact a very similar type fire happened over in the McDonald / Burgettstown  Pa area where old orphanage /Juvenile home vacant many years and back an impassable road burned down last summer.

It seems too many people have too much time on their hands to make up a bunch of hog wash intended to scare people like no face charlie the green man and others.

the 13 bends you go down you count 13 you come back up you count 12 also nonsense
Now other than the fact these roads are in dark isolated  spooky areas  there is nothing to it. The roads do not even have 13 bends look  up the coordinates on Google earth.

Now whats weird about this whole situation is how 2 towns same 2 stories partial truth  to both story's
just like the green man story  he was only in one town yet he was supposedly in south park
now that's weird . Did some one like a story so well they made up the story and brought it to there own town? Appears so.

Ghosts of a deadly 1927 national labor strike which came to Harmar Coal Mine comes back to haunt crew building new Hulton Bridge

As you ride over the soon to be replaced Hulton Bridge named for a local politician in Oakmont Pa. you cross into Harmarville now known as Harmar twp. and its like two completely different worlds.
Oakmont a wealthy river town Harmarville a blue collar working town with a coal mine and small industry.


The mine which shut down in the 1980's produced bituminous coal used in the production of steel
but in 1927 it became embroiled like many other coal mines across the nation in a bitter fight to unionize coal miners. and Harmar like other mines called in the Coal & Iron Police  a private commissioned Police force
that was nothing more than legalized thugs and which would eventually turn into the Pa. State police.

http://debs.indstate.edu/a505s5_1928.pdf

Harmar  Coal Memorial near fire station 


Typical Coal & iron badge and officers below 



These thugs had absolute power and as the violence in nearby Russelton poured into the valley
The Coal and Iron police  committed assaults and murder at will .
During the time period it was rumored that many a miner who had  pushed to unionize disappeared
into the Allegheny River off the Hulton bridge wrapped in chains and dropped into the river.  
Rumors of these tales went on for decades .
But then the state decided to replace the very old Hulton bridge with a new bridge and as engineers started exploring the old river basin under bridge. low and behold they started finding many lengths of chain as reported in the papers. 
So it looks like the rumors where true. Even my friend Grizzly talked about the Coal & Iron Police dropping body's off the bridge as well. Of course every one is ready to poo poo the whole thing as you will find chain and every imaginable thing in the river but to find as much as they did where they did you have to wonder.
besides the story's of what went on during the strike there is also a road nearby rumored to be haunted as well called 13 bends which I will be writing about as well.   and all this with in minutes of unsolved missing people and  killing of a Verona Cop.


Murder of Small Town Butler County Police Chief goes on 30 +years unsolved

Saxonburg is a sleepy little town in Butler County off of Route 228  not much goes on there except for the annual Penns Colony Festival and fireman's parade .
That was till one cold December morning in 1980  then Police Chief  Gregory Adams a family man  and greatly loved by the town was found shot and bleeding to death  in the Agway Supply company parking Lot and a notorious criminal  is suspected of  committing the heinous act  but  which has  never been  proved  is still on the run .






 The man suspected of doing the crime a known criminal Donald Eugene Webb   was believed to be in the small town to scope out a jewelry store for a burglary and has never been heard from again other than in a letter sent to local FBI office  supposedly sent by him in which also claims he did not shoot the chief .



If he is still alive he would be a very old man by now.

You might think small town jeweler how much could he have gotten in this case? Well as you can see from the pictures above this small town had money. It also has a small company at the time  which would grow into a leading developer of commercial lasers.
So he might have been after the jewelry store.
But  he could have also been there to scope out wealthy home owners as well for a burglary or even  some of the local business if he suspected they had something of value but that would take extensive knowledge he did not have of the businesses in town all small and no payroll to hit  and besides he was a burglar not a stick up man  and by then business payed by check not by cash kept in a safe over night  and burglarizing a commercial business was not his thing. He was looking for things he could easily fence or sell without question  .   If it even was him and since he is not talking  know one knows for sure but he looks good for the crime as they say.
Why FBI and police have come to this conclusion has never been fully disclosed .
But near this town  a young girl named Cheery Mahan Disappeared. a few years later in 85
never to be heard from again and maybe it was not Webb at all but the person responsible for her disappearance as well a criminal with nothing to loose  unlike Webb who at most would have done a few years and been back on the streets why would Webb shoot the officer very unlike a serial burglar to do something like this. Like I have said in other articles I believe a serial killer or killers has been operating in these parts for many years now and if I am right and this person was stopped and the chief become suspicious of them  you can understand why he was shot. But shot by a   career criminal burglar? I leave that conclusion up to you . 

40 Acres in Baldwin Boro a great place for young men to have fun and adventure and an area with its own 30+ years mysteries


Bounded by Becks Run  Road , Glass Run Road and E. Carson Street also known as Pa Route 837 
40 Acres which is mostly in Baldwin Boro  ( Not to be confused with Baldwin Twp.)
Has been the playground for kids and young adults for many decades  an abandoned piece of property due to fact of the numerous coal mines under its thickly wooded hill sides it has been lore to many tales and legends none of which seems to bare out . However there has also been its share of Criminal activity as well from underage drinking party's to stolen cars being dumped and stripped to an occasional body dump  and suicide victim so as kids you never went alone at least in pairs and with a knife or club as a weapon in case you ran into trouble exploring its vast area and  its old coal mine workings all of which have been sealed after couple kids got lost in a mine  one time you could also have sticks catch on fire in the many holes from underground mine fires which popped up all thru the property  . Supposedly there are still miners body's in one of the old shafts after a collapse and explosion but I have not as yet been able to verify it.   There was even an attempt to develop the property which has fallen thru  after Charles Betters bought it and wanted to build a casino and race track. He has done some digging and removing of surface coal but that's about it with some housing being built .The Old J&L Steel Research Center is long closed and now a private school for at risk  adjudicated youth .
As a young man I spent many a Saturday afternoon exploring the area and luckily never ran into any bogie men but we where always ready. I have been wanting to go back and retrace my foot steps but my health has prevented it. 

The place pretty much stayed out of the news till one valentines day in 1980 when a   Michael Rosenbloom from Shady side went missing along E. Carson Street where his girlfriends car was found  he was driving and Baldwin Police impounded it. and it started a fire storm of controversy  that Baldwin Police 
covered up or where involved in his disappearance . All of which I believe was a big bunch of  Hog Wash and nothing more than a bad decision to CYA   regarding the back dated letter when they realized they screwed up and State Attorney General agreed and found no wrong doing on the part of  Baldwin Police unfortunately it would put a black mark on them regardless which is a shame they have many highly professional  officers on  the force as I have interactions with them with customers property's and to  see what this force had to go thru was just wrong. 



As you read thru the various articles you will see all the controversy and also the fact a mysterious skull showed up during the search which also and has not been identified . So what happened to Michael?
good question.
site where Michaels car was found

Was one of his dealers or some one he possibly cheated  after him and caught up to him along E. Carson?
Years later A young iron worker and drug user  from suburbs would disappear in next door Homestead and it was determined he was killed chopped up and disposed of so it not out of the realm of happening.
This whole area is a hot bed for drug dealing a car wash on Becks Run road I put a security system into in 90's was often the site where junkies from suburbs would meet  dealers from St. Clair Village section 8 housing  up off Becks Run  as the suburban kiddies where afraid to go up there we caught many a suspected  drug transaction on the car washes cameras. 

Did he end up in the river and drown  as a result of his drug use?
never saw that the river was even checked . You also have railroad and an old oil terminal now gone and scrap yard where any of these places checked dd he go for help?

Was he picked up by a robber highway man type  killed and dumped some where? 
There are always rumors of body's being dumped down old mine shafts and there are documented cases of it happening.

Was he even a victim of a serial killer?
Like I said I really think one has been operating around here

There is also another possibility at that time there where many Russian Immigrants who moved into and around  the area and rumors of the Russian Mob operating in the area involved with drugs  and if he crossed them.

To make it even more interesting this is also close to where the mysterious B-25  bomber went into the river and was never found also. But thats a story in it self.

They are all possibilities and we will never know till a body is found if ever or some one confesses like in the Homestead case  and as far as I know the reward for $25,000 is still being offered. I feel bad for the family not knowing all these years. and hopefully they will have closure some day. 








2 young Tarentum boys go out to play in cold and disappear over 30 years and no clues Was it the River Hag / Witch?

Up the Allegheny River from me is the town of Tarentum Pa.
a small working class town with a big industrial stainless steel mill one of the last in the county.
and one day 2 young boys Jon Debkowski and Gabriel Meinarcin  went out to play after school  in December of 1982 and disappeared never to be seen again .
A woman claimed she saw 2 boys who matched the description playing among the river ice a very dangerous thing to do. 

Blood Hounds traced the kids scent to the river but nothing was ever found of them not one trace to say they where their and fell in or where abducted.

But one Psychic claimed they would be found under the ice near where Bull creek enters the river.
 Divers looked and nothing was found ,how ever Bull creek it self has a legend of an Old Hag or River Witch who has the power to attract children to the creek where she grabs them and drowns them. Now most people will poo poo this or say they never heard such a bizarre thing. But I personally meet a woman named Rose who lost a young brother in the creek  near the old tour ed coal mine  entrance many years ago in 60's when he slipped under the very fast and strong  waters and she claims she saw the image of the Old Hag in the creek ,who grabbed and kept him down under the creeks water and she could not rescue him. No one believed her then saying it was her imagination and hysteria playing games with her .In the 70's as a boy scout I helped with a stream improvement project in the upper section of Bull Creek and can attest to the strong currents . But plenty of dead body's have shown up in that part of river and the creek as well as drownings over the decades.
 is there anything to the Hag probably not but the rumors persist and the creek and river have always been an attractive nu-sense.
Bull Run and Allegheny River 

Now there is a very strong under tow in the Allegheny River which is very deceiving and can grab and drag you down in its current I know I swam in the upper river as a young boy scout and 2 different times did the 150 mile boot & paddle canoe trip from Tionesta to Pittsburgh.

I will never forget going thru one of the locks at one of the dams higher up the river  and when we came out the hat of a young man hanging on a branch stuck in a small island below the dam this was all they ever found of him that summer when he was swimming and got too close to dam while on a fishing trip in 1974. and people who do drown in the 3 rivers around here are often found miles down in Ohio and W. Virginia if their lucky to be found at all. but 3-4 body's a month show up in the 3 rivers around this area month after month  be it accident ,suicide or murder.

So I have a very healthy respect for the rivers and I am always on my guard around them.
Just like the river men tell you beware of snakes on the deck.

Where the kids kidnapped by a pedophile that's also a possibility as well plenty of known sex offenders reside in the area.  I have long suspected a pedophile or serial killer in the area.How hard would it have been for some one to pull up looking like a detective and take the kids away . Just like in the movie " Mystic River" There are plenty of cases of motorists being pulled over by phony cops in this area and I see plenty of suspicious looking detective /security  like vehicles which I check out who they are because of the problems we have had in the past.I Call 911 when I see detectives pulling people over and it does not look right so it can be checked out .
We have a case going on right now in Indiana county where some one claimed to be a detective was shaking down a gun shop owner over an illegal lottery  and killed him in his gun shop.He also was recently charged with assault when he tried to detain a young men in cuffs for throwing corn kernels at him .



Couple times as a young man when standing waiting for the bus or trolley along E. Carson street an old man pulled up opened his passenger door and offered me a ride I did not know who he was just that he lived in Carrick like I did  so I always declined ..
 thou at time I thought he was just some one being kind but then good thing I did not because you never know.
But dozens of people go missing in this area of Pa yearly never to be seen again.


Stanley B. Hoss Jr. a Bogie Man who left behind many Unanswered Questions

When I was a firefighter at Penn Hills station 224 we often had interaction with Verona Police Officers right on border of our territory  One day while we where on an extended call in Verona and while tending the engine I got into talking with a young officer controlling the scene . He was saying how safe he felt being an officer in a small town which did not see all the action like big city dept did. I said to him I would never leave caution to the wind and for him to ask his chief who Stanley B. Hoss Jr. was . Needless to say after he talked to his chief he changed his mind.
Because Stanley Hoss Jr. had killed a Verona Officer many years ago. in September 19 of 1969 along Plum Street on the Verona Oakmont Line on Plum Street after escaping from the now gone Allegheny County Work House Jail  now RIDC Industrial Park.It would close a couple years after the escape. I still remember the work house and its towers and guards with shot guns walking the wall's riding by as a kid in the family car . I drove up and down Plum Street many years and shopped in very lot where Stanley killed the Verona officer and never realized it till my friend  Grizzly told me the story. Apparently Hoss escaped stole a car came over Highland park bridge up Allegheny River blvd passing the jail on opposite side of river maybe to thumb his nose at them then was spotted by the Verona Patrolman who stopped him in the parking lot  and was then shot and killed.
AVR & Plum Street


http://thejewishchronicle.net/view/full_story/15169847/article-Pittsburgh-attorney-reflects-on-crime-spree-that-shook-nation-?instance=news_special_coverage_right_column



Ironically while working at the Bank Centre as a maintenance man the gentleman who would re-leave  me in evenings worked at the work house as the stationary engineer  and often told of the day Stanley escaped and caused general chaos in the place as it was locked down . I would also make life long friends with my 12th grade biology teacher Barbara Novasol whose family owned property next to the jails apple orchards inmates maintained and I often got to explore the old no longer used orchards  when I stayed with Barbara's family during the summer and took care of there property as a young man and her cousin Tony Skotak who owned property next to them on a couple different occasions had caught escapees trying to get away from the orchards and marched them by shot gun back to the jail.
RIDC Park


But this is not the first time  Stanley B. Hoss name has come up in conversation a late friend of mine  Noel McCarthy who everyone called Grizzly knew Stanley Hoss as well he lived right near by him when he lived on the now realigned  Saxonburg Blvd. at Pa.route 910 intersection the home Stanley lived in was demolished in the realignment  he was a young man when grizzly knew him and he was trouble even then out stealing cars and such. In one of the Pittsburgh Internet news groups a relative of Stanley's appeared one time inquiring about his relative needless to say he was pretty shocked when rumors he heard about him where confirmed .
Pa.910 & Saxonburg Blvd.

So it only seems appropriate a book titled  "Born to Lose " which  was also the tattoo Stanley sported would some day be written about him before his name was lost to history.
When I was a young child in 69 ,Stanley Hoss was like the bogie man as people would say his name to scare you and as this was a time when racial tensions where high and riots in city's was going on it just intensified things.

Yes they would catch Stanley and he would die in prison but not before revealing what he did with a woman and her daughter he kidnapped in Maryland and surely murdered and dumped there body's some where
before he was captured. But the memory's are fading and any one who had any interaction with him are now well into there 70's-80's and or have passed on so chances are the Mother and child remains will never be found or if they are it will be many years from now and hopefully they will be able to be identified and given proper burial and rest as for Stanley B. Hoss Jr. I am sure he is roasting some where in the bowels of Hell .